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  • dream theater ın six degrees of inner turbulence albümünün ilk cd sindeki 4. şarkı.. tool aenema albümünden esinlendikleri bariz bi şekilde belli. şarkı third eye gibi başlıyo ve ortalarında biyerde 46 & 2 (resmen aynısı) bölümü var. deişik bişey yapmaya çalışiim derken tool şarkısının aynısını kopya etmişler gibi geldi bana. gene de albümün en iyi şarkısı diyebilirim.
  • dream theater'ın stem cell araştırması üstüne yaptığı can şarkı. dt'ın ilk defa politik görüş sergilediği bir şarkıdır.
  • kesinlikle albümün en iyi şarkısı. sözleri de hakkaten vurucu. tool'a olan benzerliği de sadece konsept olarak örtüşür bence ki dream theater daha önce de yapmıştı böle konsept şarkılar ama iyi ki de benzetmişler tabii gayet nefis olmuş.

    sağcı solcu sample'larla beraber bütün lyricleri de şöyle:

    six degrees of inner turbulence

    4th degree - the great debate [13:43]
    [also known as "conflict at ground zero"]
    music by myung, petrucci, portnoy, rudess
    lyrics by john petrucci

    [both channels]
    "a gallup snapshot poll taken immediately after
    president bush's speech on funding embryonic
    stem cell research last night shows that half of
    americans approve of his decision, 25% do not,
    and still another 25% aren't sure what to think."

    [left channel]
    "most people don't even know what stem cells are."

    [both channels]
    "who's going to scream the loudest, will it be the
    right-to-lifer's, will it be the scientists?
    and now what's going to happen is that there will
    be a tremendous amount of lobbying in washington
    d.c. scientists, entertainers, people who want to
    see this research will be coming forth."

    [right channel]
    "i'm concerned about it, christopher reeves is
    concerned about it, everyone is concerned about it,
    but the big question is, do the ends justify the
    means? and when we talk about research, yes we can
    cure a lot things speculatively, but where's the
    proof?"

    [left channel]
    "these developing human beings that they're talking
    about, these embryos were produced in an artificial
    scientific environment, in vitro fertilization is
    not god's will."

    [right channel]
    "that doesn't make them any less human though, after
    that happens."

    [both channels]
    "we're on a road where we really don't where we're
    going as far as what's next, we're talking about
    harvesting embryos, we're talking about this, we're
    talking about that, but what is the cost?"

    [left channel]
    "how could we possibly abandon the research?"

    [the following samples are played simultaneously]

    [left channel]
    "well that's right, it's the old question, i mean if
    you think the research is good, of course you'd have
    no problem at all with it. it's only if you think the
    research involved is something evil, then you get the
    question of ‘is it okay to [???]?’ and the truth of
    the matter is that we do that all the time with organ
    transplants, i mean with people that are killed or
    murdered or people who're just victims of automobile
    accidents, abandoning all [???]. we do take their organs
    and we look to try to save other lives. we try to [???]
    all the time. [???] kill someone [???]"

    [left channel]
    "and i'd like to mention that we don't have the answers
    yet. we need to put the money into something that'll
    hopefully get those answers in the future. listen,
    we're out of time."

    [right channel]
    "and in this country there was a great outrage of [???]
    from all points. from churches, mainline [???]...
    that you can not use [???]... to cure [???]...
    and as it turned out [???]... great outrage... [???]"

    what if someone said
    promise lies ahead
    hopes are high in certain scientific circles
    life won't have to end
    you could walk again

    what if someone said
    problems lie ahead
    they've uncovered something highly controversial
    the right to life is strong
    can't you see it's wrong

    human kind has reached a turning point
    poised for conflict at ground zero
    ready for a war
    do we look to our unearthly guide
    or to white coat heroes
    searching for a cure

    turn to the light
    don't be frightened of the shadows it creates
    turn to the light
    turning away would be a terrible mistake

    anarchistic moral vision
    industries of death
    facing violent opposition
    unmolested breathe

    ethic inquisitions breed
    antagonistic views
    right wing sound bite premonitions
    in a labyrinth of rules

    are you justified
    are you justified
    are you justified
    justified in taking
    life to save life
    life to save life
    taking life to save life

    this embryonic clay
    wrapped in fierce debate
    would be thrown away
    or otherwise discarded

    some of us believe
    it may hold the key
    to treatment of disease
    and secrets highly guarded

    are you justified
    are you justified
    are you justified
    justified in taking
    life to save life
    life to save life
    life to save life

    human kind has reached a turning point
    poised for conflict at ground zero
    ready for a war
    do we look to our unearthly guide
    or to white coat heroes

    turn to the light
    don't be frightened of the shadows it creates
    turn to the light
    turning away would be a terrible mistake

    we're reaching
    but have we gone too far

    harvesting existence
    only to destroy
    carelessly together
    we are sliding

    someone else's future
    four days frozen still
    someone else's fate
    we are deciding

    miracle potential
    sanctity of life
    faced against each other
    we're divided

    should we push the boundaries
    or should we condemn
    moral guilt and science
    have collided

    turn to the light
    we defy our own mortality these days
    turn to the light
    pay attention to the questions we have raised

    [the following samples are played simultaneously]

    [left channel]
    "...research, scientific advancement. and i know we're
    going down a road that we may not know where we end, but
    we...that's exactly what science is all about. i'm very sorry,
    but i you know i do feel sympathy for people who whose spines
    are...have uh have been severed. there's a possibility we
    might be able to cure them. i am concerned about a cure for
    juvenile diabetes. and if these types of scientific
    advancements can cure these diseases, then quite candidly
    i think there ought to be at least, what president bush has
    said, some limited research."

    [right channel]
    "one of the one of the big questions that still remains for
    me though is that all of these embryos that are are set or
    uh being discarded for example um is this worse than just
    throwing those away?"

    [right channel]
    "we don't know if they're going to be discarded. all of a
    sudden, i mean, we're going to say, uh we started with the
    ones that are going to be discarded. then all of a sudden,
    we're going to have people being solicited to donate parts
    of their their anatomy to harvest parts of, like, a part
    of what have you. i mean that's how's it starts."

    [right channel]
    "even though if they start soliciting, women and men in
    fertility clinics have extra embryos."

    [right channel]
    "stem cells come from developing human beings and that they
    shouldn't be uh experimented on in a way that doesn't make
    sense or that is unethical, but at the same time there is
    great promise."

    [left channel]
    "i have a 28-year-old son, her grandson, that that uh is
    uh paraplegic. and if there is a small chance that my son
    would be able to have any feeling and be able to walk, i
    am for it."

    [right channel]
    "a human body having evolving for tens of thousands of
    years and we're just injecting cells from embryos into
    people's brains, and and how do we come to to do something
    like that?"
  • albümün ilk cdsinin misunderstood ve disappearla beraber en iyi $arkısı. dream theater'ın erotomania kadar deneysel olmasa da , deneysel bir $arkısı.
  • beni, daha önce sadece yalnızca ismini duymuş olduğum kök hücre davası üzerinde araştırma yapmaya itmiş şarkı. genel olarak insanlığın bu tedavi yönteminin doğru olup olmadığına dair büyük bir tartışma içerisinde olduğunu anlatıyor olsa da "are you justified in taking life, to save life?", "we defy our own mortality these days.", "someone else's fate we are deciding." gibi sözler, dream theater'ın araştırmanın devam ettirilmemesi gerektiği yönünde taraf tutuyor olduğunu düşündürüyor.
  • sarkidan grubun bu "debate" hakkinda ne dusundugunu anlamak gercekten zor.. ayrica dream theater sevgisini bi yana birakalim, sozleri ahenksiz ve dt ye gicik ettiren bi sarki...
  • insanı en isteksiz halinde bile ayaklandırıp hoplayıp zıplatacak kadar hayvani gaz bir dream theater başyapıtı.hakikaten şölen gibi bişey.
  • grubun taraf olmaya çalışmadığı, aksine iki tarafı da seslendirdiği, bir yandan; "ışığa dön, yarattığı gölgeler seni korkutmasın; arkanı dönüp gitmek korkunç bir hata olacaktır" diyerek aklın ve bilimin yolundan dem vururken; öte yandan "can kurtarmak için başka bir canı almayı haklı görüyor musun?" diyerek, inançların yönlendirmesini de yanına alan muhafazakar düşünceyi verir bizlere. ayrıca, objektif olarak sorgulayan başka bir ses daha mevcuttur ki grubun durduğu nokta da burasıdır şarkıdaki.

    ama hepsinden öte; yine aşmış bir müzik eseridir, yaratıcı kurgusuyla.
  • mike portnoy un intro ve outroda yapisik ikiz tadindaki setinin iki hihat pedaliyla double hihat gittigi parca.
  • bir tool parçasına hem müzik hem de içerik açısından o kadar çok benzemektedir ki, kim olduğu bilmeden dinlenirse rahatlıkla "aha tool çalıyo la?" denebilir bence.